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    Quote Originally Posted by impart-distart View Post
    The issue is not about diversity in a movie based in Asian culture, the issue is about diversity in Hollywood movies, specifically lead roles. There is an idea in these production companies that people will not go see a movie if the leads are Asian. In the movie '21' about the card counting MIT students based on real people, the character played by Jim Sturgess is, in real life, an Asian-American man named Jeff Ma.


    The movie "Extraordinary Measures" (with Brendan Fraser and Harrison Ford about the man who's kids are sick and the brilliant doctor that finds a cure for their disease) is also based on a true story. In it Harrison Ford plays the Doctor who finds a cure for Pompe Disease. That character is based on Dr. Yun-Tsong Chen. The part had to be re-written (as Dr. Robert Stonehill) so it could be played by Harrison Ford.

    How is that OK?

    Making something "more diverse" by making non-white characters white is not exactly commendable.
    Personally, I don't give two shits.

    As long as the movie is good, I don't care about anything else about it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tangerine View Post
    Blah blah racism blah blah. No one actually gives a damn unless they're total pretentious cunts. By the way, for you folks who complain that the water tribe should be black or whatever: the water tribe is based off of Native Americans. If you're going to complain about race, at least get the race right.
    You're an idiot.

    The water tribe are based off of Indigenous Circumpolar or Inuit people. They are not Native Americans, They are Inuit. They live in the polar regions of Alaska, Northern Canada, and Greenland.


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    Quote Originally Posted by impart-distart View Post
    The issue is not about diversity in a movie based in Asian culture, the issue is about diversity in Hollywood movies, specifically lead roles. There is an idea in these production companies that people will not go see a movie if the leads are Asian. In the movie '21' about the card counting MIT students based on real people, the character played by Jim Sturgess is, in real life, an Asian-American man named Jeff Ma.


    The movie "Extraordinary Measures" (with Brendan Fraser and Harrison Ford about the man who's kids are sick and the brilliant doctor that finds a cure for their disease) is also based on a true story. In it Harrison Ford plays the Doctor who finds a cure for Pompe Disease. That character is based on Dr. Yun-Tsong Chen. The part had to be re-written (as Dr. Robert Stonehill) so it could be played by Harrison Ford.

    How is that OK?

    Making something "more diverse" by making non-white characters white is not exactly commendable.
    technically the characters aren't asian so the producers don't HAVE to get asian actors -- as long as they look like the characters [which, believe it or not, they do], the producers can do as they please

    but believe me believe me i don't disagree with you. you make a good point about casting discrimination, and yes, they probably SHOULD have gotten asian actors to play aang, sokka, and katara. it's just that you're fighting a losing fight. the characters are never outright said to be asian, so it's not like the movie producers are going to get in any lasting trouble for this.

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    Default re: Avatar: You Only Leaf Once

    Quote Originally Posted by impart-distart View Post
    You're an idiot.

    The water tribe are based off of Indigenous Circumpolar or Inuit people. They are not Native Americans, They are Inuit. They live in the polar regions of Alaska, Northern Canada, and Greenland.
    No shit. Inuits are a class of Native Americans, you ignorant cunt. They're not even the only types to live up north. Try not to insult others without knowing details.

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    Quote Originally Posted by impart-distart View Post
    You're an idiot.

    The water tribe are based off of Indigenous Circumpolar or Inuit people. They are not Native Americans, They are Inuit. They live in the polar regions of Alaska, Northern Canada, and Greenland.
    Arctic Inuit Native Americans in Olden Times for Kids - Lessons, Activities, Games

    Actually.....

    That link proves you wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Weeaboo View Post
    She even wrote "indigenous" in her post, obviously not realizing what it meant. El oh el.

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    Alright calm down its not that serious.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tangerine View Post
    She even wrote "indigenous" in her post, obviously not realizing what it meant. El oh el.
    Oh silly me.

    El oh el.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tangerine View Post
    No shit. Inuits are a class of Native Americans, you ignorant cunt. They're not even the only types to live up north. Try not to insult others without knowing details.
    Can you give me a link for that?

    The Inuit are recognized by Canada's constitution as a Distinctive group of Canadian Aboriginals separate from the the First Nations or the Metis. The Inuit Circumpolar Council, A U.N recognized nongovernmental organization, represents Canada's Inuit and Inuvialuit Greenland's Kalaallit Inuit; Alaska's Inupiat and Yu'pik people, and the Siberian Yupik people of Russia.

    The Characters are Inuit. That's what I said. I'm mad because they're played by white people.


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    I really liked the series but i'm not seeing the movie because of -Insert "Paramount made a bunch of douche moves and racebending, etc. etc. I don't really feel like getting into anything rn"- even though I want to support Dev Patel since he's awesome/a good actor.
    ...Anyways, has anyone heard anything new about Legend of Korra? Or is everything still under wraps and such?
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    Quote Originally Posted by impart-distart View Post
    Can you give me a link for that?

    The Inuit are recognized by Canada's constitution as a Distinctive group of Canadian Aboriginals separate from the the First Nations or the Metis. The Inuit Circumpolar Council, A U.N recognized nongovernmental organization, represents Canada's Inuit and Inuvialuit Greenland's Kalaallit Inuit; Alaska's Inupiat and Yu'pik people, and the Siberian Yupik people of Russia.

    The Characters are Inuit. That's what I said. I'm mad because they're played by white people.
    You wrote indigenous before and in that post you wrote aboriginal. Do you seriously not know what those words mean? They mean native. The information is on the same Wikipedia page you're copy/pasting from. Don't call me an idiot. If you insult me, then I won't shy away from letting you know what a real idiot is. I don't care why you're mad. What I do care about is your insulting and condescending attitude directed at me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by simple&cleanxiii View Post
    ...Anyways, has anyone heard anything new about Legend of Korra? Or is everything still under wraps and such?
    Oh Yeah! I just read something about that, The creators Mike DiMartino and Brian Konietzko told fans at a book signing at a comic book store in LA recently that, While they couldnt talk about Legend Of Korra at the book signing, that we can expect an announcement soon, Hopefully before Comic Con.

    Ok, I know its not much but I was excited to hear it anyway :)


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    Quote Originally Posted by impart-distart View Post
    Oh Yeah! I just read something about that, The creators Mike DiMartino and Brian Konietzko told fans at a book signing at a comic book store in LA recently that, While they couldnt talk about Legend Of Korra at the book signing, that we can expect an announcement soon, Hopefully before Comic Con.

    Ok, I know its not much but I was excited to hear it anyway :)
    Oh, ty :)
    I had been wondering when they were going to say something about it. I hope that in the new show they mention something about Zuko's Mom since they just sort of left everyone hangin' there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tangerine View Post
    You wrote indigenous before and in that post you wrote aboriginal. Do you seriously not know what those words mean? They mean native. The information is on the same Wikipedia page you're copy/pasting from. Don't call me an idiot. If you insult me, then I won't shy away from letting you know what a real idiot is. I don't care why you're mad. What I do care about is your insulting and condescending attitude directed at me.
    I know what those words mean. I know what I said. They're not called Native Americans. They're called Inuit.

    From Wikipedia:

    'In Canada and Greenland, the Inuit circulated almost exclusively north of the "Arctic tree line", the de facto southern border of Inuit society. The most southern Inuit community in the world is Rigolet[18], Newfoundland. To the south, Native American cultures were well established. The culture and technology of Inuit society that served so well in the Arctic were not suited to subarctic regions, so they did not displace their southern neighbours.'

    You called me a cunt. All the references are at the bottom of the page. Have fun.




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    Quote Originally Posted by tangerine View Post
    You wrote indigenous before and in that post you wrote aboriginal. Do you seriously not know what those words mean? They mean native. The information is on the same Wikipedia page you're copy/pasting from. Don't call me an idiot. If you insult me, then I won't shy away from letting you know what a real idiot is. I don't care why you're mad. What I do care about is your insulting and condescending attitude directed at me.
    Just because they're natives of wherever they're from doesn't mean they're Native Americans, because they're not necessarily from America. =P

    It's kind of like calling all black people African-Americans, actually. From impart's post, the group being referred to includes people from Greenland and Russia, to whom the name "Native American" wouldn't apply.

 

 

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