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View Poll Results: favorite death note character
Light 21 32.31%
L 41 63.08%
Near 13 20.00%
Mello 6 9.23%
Misa 4 6.15%
Mikami 8 12.31%
matsuda 4 6.15%
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Old 06/21/08, 06:28 AM   #2191
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He was told specifically "Don't take out the ****ing book". He should've listened to his god.
If Takada had survived and was questioned by Mello, that would have posed as an even larger threat for Light. So when he sees an opportunity which may result in a fatal problem for his god, Mikami did what he thought was best at the time. Also, Light must have been confusing the crap out of Mikami:

Light: I can't do anything in the position I'm in. I'm leaving everything up to you.
Light: Don't take out the real notebook until the 28th.

Mikami's only human, and he did what he thought was best, as he had no idea Light would have been able to kill Takada. Granted, some of the blame could be put on him for Light's death, but to blame the whole operation on Mikami? That's ridiculous.
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Uh, he did. That's why he made the fake notebook.
I believe the fake notebook was the original plan.

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that was Near thinking on his feet, in a situation where he had a great deal of room of possibility.
Exactly, and when he has a hefty amount of time before the 28th, he should also have a great deal of room of possibility to prepare a backup plan to Light's original plan.

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There were no flaws in Light's plan if Mikami had listened to orders. No back-up plan necassary
It was not flawless. Light putting so much trust in Mikami left so much room for mistakes. Even still, it's debatable as to whether or not you could call Mikami's action a mistake.

That's another flaw with Light's character. Truth be told, Light is a brilliant person, but he lets his cocky attitude and god-complex get the best of him. He should have been fully prepared for the 28th, after all it was a matter of life or death. I'll agree that Mikami should have listened to his orders, but as I said earlier, Mikami just did what he thought was best.

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I'll give you that one.
Exactly, which is why I think Light is a moron, or in the least bit, too analytical and cocky for his own good. The backup plan that I just stated is so obvious that the fact Light didn't think about it makes me think he dug his own grave.

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No. Light was a genius who had a massive amount of stress on his back. He had to deal with

A) The members of the task force suspecting him'
B) Near and Mello hounding for him
C) Being a high ranked official (I can't quite remember what he was) of the japanese police
D) Dealing with two bitchy women
E) Matsuda
F) Matsuda
G) Constantly worrying about Mikami, Misa, or Takada ratting him out
H) (Possibly) the fact that his family had suffered for his cause

And lets look at Near's stress

**** damn it, my dice tower fell over >:

It's not suprising that Light may have overlooked some possibilities.

Conclusion: Fate just didn't care for Light's plans
I'll agree that Light has had a lot of stress on his back. But why? Because he made it so. Every action Light has made in the series has made him even more suspicious to L, the Police, Near, Mello, etc.

So technically, Light had so much stress to deal with because of his actions. His stress led to him overlooking possibilities. His overlooking possibilities led to his death. So, by transitive property (lol math), Light's actions caused his own death.

EDIT: I should probably re-word what I've been saying about Light being a moron. I don't really mean he's a moron. In fact, Light is quite brilliant, which is obvious. Still, you can be brilliant and stupid at the same time. I just think that Light's cockiness made him more prone to error, thus making him less intelligent than he really is.

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Old 06/21/08, 07:45 AM   #2192
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i think light did end up in the shinigami realm. one of the rules was that people who used the death note couldn't go to heaven or hell. so where else could he go? that would also explain where the shinigami come from. if that was a question, or if there is some kind of myth about where they come from. but then, where do shinigami go when they die? what happened to Rem?
If you read the manga, it's explained by Ryuk admitting that there is no Heaven OR Hell. ALL humans go to nothingness.

The Shinigami Realm is another place entirely.
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Old 06/21/08, 07:51 AM   #2193
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If you read the manga, it's explained by Ryuk admitting that there is no Heaven OR Hell. ALL humans go to nothingness.

The Shinigami Realm is another place entirely.
yeah,you right.good point for you,...........
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Old 06/21/08, 04:19 PM   #2194
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The ending sucked. Well, for me it did.

Who do people like more? Light or L? I think more people like L better.
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Old 06/21/08, 07:05 PM   #2195
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If you read the manga, it's explained by Ryuk admitting that there is no Heaven OR Hell. ALL humans go to nothingness.

The Shinigami Realm is another place entirely.
ok, i messed that one up. maybe i should have read more of the manga first.

also what is the latest episode in english? today is saturday for me, and i haven't seen the latest one, so does anyone know which episode comes on tonight?
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Old 06/21/08, 08:27 PM   #2196
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The ending sucked. Well, for me it did.

Who do people like more? Light or L? I think more people like L better.
L, hands down. If there's one thing in a person I despise it's arrogance and the idea that for whatever reason you're 'higher' than other people, so Light was sort of 'eh' for me from the beginning, despite his intellect. L is a very cunning person, and he has a good sense of what's right and wrong, and up until the end he had Light at every turn and was almost always a step ahead.

Plus, he ate sweets and sat in a funny way, so that was a plus.
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Old 06/21/08, 09:16 PM   #2197
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I thought the shinigami realm was a realm inbetween heaven and hell. Like the intermediary of existance in the next life
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Old 06/21/08, 09:22 PM   #2198
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no you are thinking of purgatory
i think it was closed down by the pope though
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Old 06/21/08, 09:32 PM   #2199
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Mikami's only human, and he did what he thought was best, as he had no idea Light would have been able to kill Takada. Granted, some of the blame could be put on him for Light's death, but to blame the whole operation on Mikami? That's ridiculous.
Whether or not it was the "right" choice, it's Mikami's fault for Light's downfall. If he hadn't taken out the notebook, Near would've lost at the warehouse.


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I believe the fake notebook was the original plan.
I don't even know how that all worked. From what I caught, Light had Mikami make a fake notebook, and use it in front of Giovanni so that the SPK would try to take the notebook. The SPK proceded to sneak into Mikami's gym, and take pictures of the entire notebook, and made their own. They then switched that original fake notebook with their fake notebook while the real notebook was in a safe.

The point of that was that Light had the upperhand exculding Mikami's actions.

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I'll agree that Light has had a lot of stress on his back. But why? Because he made it so. Every action Light has made in the series has made him even more suspicious to L, the Police, Near, Mello, etc.

So technically, Light had so much stress to deal with because of his actions. His stress led to him overlooking possibilities. His overlooking possibilities led to his death. So, by transitive property (lol math), Light's actions caused his own death.
But he had to be within the Police in order to realize his goals. Not only to distract them from catching Kira, but he also wanted the police to accept Kira. Where better to do that?

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I should probably re-word what I've been saying about Light being a moron. I don't really mean he's a moron. In fact, Light is quite brilliant, which is obvious. Still, you can be brilliant and stupid at the same time. I just think that Light's cockiness made him more prone to error, thus making him less intelligent than he really is.
True, but we can't all be perfect. Light hates losing, which also means he loves winning.

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also what is the latest episode in english? today is saturday for me, and i haven't seen the latest one, so does anyone know which episode comes on tonight?
Tonight is 35, I believe.

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Who do people like more? Light or L? I think more people like L better.
Light, without a doubt :3. I loved his personality, and so desperatly wished he had won T_T
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The series is just so intense as for the ending. Tsk Tsk, i saw it coming sometime
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Old 06/22/08, 06:52 PM   #2201
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Only two more episodes!! This is really going to suck, well for me.
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Old 06/22/08, 07:04 PM   #2202
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The ending sucked. Well, for me it did.

Who do people like more? Light or L? I think more people like L better.
dude, look at the avatar.
also, if you guyz would tell me what you think of it. like if it is good or not. i did it myself.
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Old 06/22/08, 10:55 PM   #2203
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Only two more episodes!! This is really going to suck, well for me.
Are you watching the English Dub?
If so go finish it off with the Japanese/English Sub
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Old 06/23/08, 12:05 AM   #2204
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The ending... ugh... it's good but, it's unpleasant to read/watch because Near didn't deserve to win.
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Old 06/23/08, 12:10 AM   #2205
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Speaking of the end of the dub, I wonder how badly Light's final lol will be butchered. The first laugh in the series after killing Lind L. Taylor was actually pretty good, but any following that one have not been quite as impressive.
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