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Old November 7th, 2009, 01:15 AM   #1
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In Days,Roxas is told that those who disobey the Org. are turned into Dusks.But I think this is bullshit.A Nobody's power and appearance are determined by how strong their heart was.Xemnas(who I suppose is the one who turns traitors into Dusks) can't make a Nobody's appearance and strength changed because he'd have to mess with the Somebody's heart,which isn't possible because he'd have to track that heart down.Just thought I should point this out.

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Old November 7th, 2009, 01:18 AM   #2
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Xemnas is the controller of the Dusks, and given his power, I wouldn't doubt he had such an ability.

For all we know, there could have been more Organization members in the past before Roxas/Marluxia that have gotten turned into Dusks. Keep in mind in KH2FM, Xemnas was prepared to turn Axel into a Dusk with that weird light coming from his hand.
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Old November 7th, 2009, 01:19 AM   #3
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Xemnas is the controller of the Dusks, and given his power, I wouldn't doubt he had such an ability.

For all we know, there could have been more Organization members in the past before Roxas/Marluxia that have gotten turned into Dusks. Keep in mind in KH2FM, Xemnas was prepared to turn Axel into a Dusk with that weird light coming from his hand.
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Old November 7th, 2009, 01:20 AM   #4
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There isn't really anything that says that a Somebody's heart affects how the Nobody looks, so for all anybody knows, he could have that power. I wouldn't doubt it, either, since he is the first Nobody and the strongest out of them all.
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Knowing Xemnas, he probably can, and will turn someone into a Dusk, because he has the power to do so. And if he doesn't, it's probably a threat to keep everyone in line. But this is MANSEX, so I'd take his threats seriously. Some things are shown off-camera you know.
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Old November 7th, 2009, 06:01 AM   #7
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In Days,Roxas is told that those who disobey the Org. are turned into Dusks.But I think this is bullshit.A Nobody's power and appearance are determined by how strong their heart was.Xemnas(who I suppose is the one who turns traitors into Dusks) can't make a Nobody's appearance and strength changed because he'd have to mess with the Somebody's heart,which isn't possible because he'd have to track that heart down.Just thought I should point this out.

Thoughts?

EDIT:This is like my 6th thread today
It's unknown if Xemnas could really transform Humanoid Nobodies into Dusks but from Days and KHII, it's safe to assume that he can.

Plus, who's to say that there weren't other Org. members prior to the neophytes we know?
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:51 - 1:04 (crappy english dub, but whatever)
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They got their numbers in the order that they joined. So since we've seen all numbers 1-14, we know that there were no members who were killed or turned into Dusks and then replaced.

It also says in the game that "Xemnas has power over nothingness itself", so I guess that means he can change the form of the Nobodies if he wanted to.
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Old November 7th, 2009, 09:39 PM   #10
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They got their numbers in the order that they joined. So since we've seen all numbers 1-14, we know that there were no members who were killed or turned into Dusks and then replaced.

It also says in the game that "Xemnas has power over nothingness itself", so I guess that means he can change the form of the Nobodies if he wanted to.
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Organization XIII's leader. Through power over nothing, he seeks power over everything.
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^ That's what you're trying to quote. Anywho, Xemnas and/or any other member could've told them that there was no other member. Why call it Organization XIII when there're more than fifteen members? Some of them not being replicas of course.
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He most likely could with his power. Wouldn't say a whole lot of Dusks were previous Organization members but a few of them could've been.
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He most likely could with his power. Wouldn't say a whole lot of Dusks were previous Organization members but a few of them could've been.
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Like those Dusks that report bits of information to the Org. members in TCTNW about the defeat of some of the members in CO, they could've slowly began to loose their ability to speak. There's also that one Dusk that calls Roxas My liege.
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Old November 7th, 2009, 10:18 PM   #13
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I've had a little theory about this that he does this by taking away their memories. They'd lose their self awareness---the only thing that distinguishes them from common nobodies. But then again, if that was true that he was about to do that in the room where they meet, the theory is probably false.
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Old November 7th, 2009, 10:57 PM   #14
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I've had a little theory about this that he does this by taking away their memories. They'd lose their self awareness---the only thing that distinguishes them from common nobodies.
That's actually not a bad way of looking at it.
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Old November 7th, 2009, 11:04 PM   #15
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That video doesnt really imply he can turn him into dusks. For all we know that light was a jedi mind trick which made Axel obey.
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