Kairi's keyblade?

[Smile]

It originally had. And still does despite the straying from topic.

[KH Warrior 2]

Originally Posted by ∞

No, she doesn't have her own Keyblade, but she is capable of wielding one, unless it's just Riku letting her do so.

She would probauly end up fucking up everything in the process

[DeltasLight]

Smile I think you are completely right. Ive read this whole thread and everything you say (argue lol) is on the dot. I believe you have truly hit the mark on this one.

Is it weird that I think that Kairi's Keyblade (er... the one lent to her) is cool looking. Not that i would want to see Sora or Riku use it, but if she does eventually weild (ugh) then that... thing... is perfect for her.

[Saix's bane]

Originally Posted by Smile

I agree that just might let her hold onto one and use it without it flashing back to its original wielder. However, until you show me Snow White "wielding" a Keyblade, don't say that.
:\ wielding a Keyblade in KH = much, much more than simply holding it.

I love how you keep pointing this out and NO ONE listens lol. But I'm with you. It makes sense that since she's a PoH she has a strong heart, allowing her to use a Keyblade, but it doesn't mean that the Keyblade is now her Keyblade.

[Igshar]

Originally Posted by Smile

To play Devil's Advocate, I'd say that Xion had a damn good reason to be able to hold onto Roxas's Keyblade. But I do agree that for Jack and Leon, even if instinctively, Sora moved from not willing it to stay (passive in Leon's case) and willing it back (Jack's case). He was also shown to be able to summon it from a distance, like in his fight with Roxas - an ability Roxas seemed oblivious to. I think that comes to show that if Roxas wanted to call the KK back, he probably could've done so. He didn't want to.

Damn good reason, eh? Considering she
[spoilers]had lost her ability to wield due to Roxas waking up (admitted it, too~), I don't think she had much of any real reason at all to be able to hold that Keyblade had Roxas not willed her to.[/quote]
That last part you said agrees with what I was stating. He willingly chose to not call it back, thus willed someone other than himself to wield it. This can easily then be applied to the Riku-Kairi situation.

That... I'd further play Devil's Advocate for.

Spoilers

Xion had quite a bit to do with that scene, it seems. However, I do agree she might've made Roxas, as a part of him, not will the Oblivion back. Hence, Roxas, not on his own accord, willed for it to remain with Riku - seeing how again, I doubt he knew he could just call it back. And he did throw it to him to begin with and all.

Spoilers

Xion's involvement is actually totally irrelevant to the point I was making, hence why I didn't bring it up. Regardless who threw it, Xion or Roxas, Riku was given authority to use the Keyblade to fight alongside Roxas against the Neo Shadows. As for not calling it back, it was likely due partly to Xion willing Riku to hold it and Roxas' ignorance to the ability to will the Keyblade back to his hand.

All of that, though, leads more heavily to the fact it was Riku, NOT Kairi, who was the reason behind Kairi being able to use that Keyblade. I luckily see no reason for anyone to think Kairi was a wielder of any degree after that scene. :\

Two different cases I doubt you can really draw conclusions from - especially at this time we know all but squat about how and why Riku eventually became a wielder again.

I said that before making the comparisons, didn't I? xD

Of course "her" Keyblade doesn't, if a Keyblade has a connection to Xion in this threat, it's Riku's o.o;

If anyone other than Kairi, the Keyblade connects to Repliku and/or Namine more than anyone else, ne? o-o;


And, and... I listened. ;-;

[Smile]

Originally Posted by DeltasLight

Smile I think you are completely right. Ive read this whole thread and everything you say (argue lol) is on the dot. I believe you have truly hit the mark on this one.

*blushes* thanks :3~
Though with how I ended up figuring out Xion's story in full before the game was released I wouldn't be surprised if this came to be ._.;

Is it weird that I think that Kairi's Keyblade (er... the one lent to her) is cool looking. Not that i would want to see Sora or Riku use it, but if she does eventually weild (ugh) then that... thing... is perfect for her.

Well, Sora and Mickey share the Star Seeker. Maybe Kairi'd use it. Let's hope not.
And I think it's a pretty Keyblade too. I love the DI design. I think both Sora and Roxas have much "gayer" Keyblade/Gear designs, too XD; but it's fun calling it Gayblade :3~

Originally Posted by Saix's bane

I love how you keep pointing this out and NO ONE listens lol. But I'm with you. It makes sense that since she's a PoH she has a strong heart, allowing her to use a Keyblade, but it doesn't mean that the Keyblade is now her Keyblade.

I actually don't really think she has a strong Heart. For the time being, the only way I can explain her leaving her Heart from her Body at the start of KH1 is that despite being a PoH - her Heart was that weak. Because she's a PoH, however, it served as a "cheat sheet" that let her hold the Keyblade, as PoHs have established links to the Keyblade, going by KH1, and how Kairi reached DI to begin with because she followed Riku having the KK.

Originally Posted by Igshar

That last part you said agrees with what I was stating. He willingly chose to not call it back, thus willed someone other than himself to wield it. This can easily then be applied to the Riku-Kairi situation.

And I agree. Only the difference is that Xion might actually have been wielding (she was also releasing Hearts, something that circumstances prevented us from seeing Kairi do), and, well... Xion complications. I'd hardly compare the two cases here.

All of that, though, leads more heavily to the fact it was Riku, NOT Kairi, who was the reason behind Kairi being able to use that Keyblade. I luckily see no reason for anyone to think Kairi was a wielder of any degree after that scene. :\

;w; ilu.

If anyone other than Kairi, the Keyblade connects to Repliku and/or Namine more than anyone else, ne? o-o;

Going by GA's theory, which I strongly disagree with.

[Zubine]

I got a ton more questions just by reading this damn thread.....I Guess we cant answer jack unless we know how the keyblade actually works...

[Smile]

Probably not, but that never stopped us before.
Ask away.

[dominionkid123]

Well Xion was a part of sora, she was the memory of kiari that was scattered when namine tried to return his memory back. So Xion holding the keyblade has nothing to do with kiari's keyblade. Xion being apart of sora allowed her to hold the keyblade. Xion is not connected to kiari at all.

[Smile]

Originally Posted by dominionkid123

Well Xion was a part of sora, she was the memory of kiari that was scattered when namine tried to return his memory back.

The Memories came into play a long time before they tried to put the Memories back. In fact, it's quite logical to say that the reason they tore Sora's Memories apart to begin with was for Xion.

So Xion holding the keyblade has nothing to do with kiari's keyblade.

Dude, did you even read the thread?
1) Kairi doesn't have her own Keyblade
2) no one's talking about Xion wielding here, just existing
3) we're talking about Riku.

[KH Warrior 2]

I 100 % with Smile on this

[Igshar]

Originally Posted by Smile

And I agree. Only the difference is that Xion might actually have been wielding (she was also releasing Hearts, something that circumstances prevented us from seeing Kairi do), and, well... Xion complications. I'd hardly compare the two cases here.

There has never been anything to say that one must be a Wielder to release Hearts... Everyone simply says that the Keyblade can release the Hearts. There's nothing against Kairi being able to release them while using the Keyblade, while there is a small bit of evidence for her being able to.

And the whole Xion thing... I was arguing specifically against her actually wielding, since she was unable at the time to call out her Keyblade. This was due to Roxas waking up. I don't think she was Wielding at the time, just borrowing Roxas' Keyblade for a short while. :\ I feel if she was still able to Wield, she'd have been able to call out her Keyblade.

Eh, still say that Kairi's ability/inability to wield the Keyblade (nor her strength of Heart) had no bearing on whether or not she could hold that Keyblade.

;w; ilu.

xP ilu2.